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		<title>By: Julius Hahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julius Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turnout in that district was under 20%.  That number could have been boosted if workers were knocking on doors, calling their neighbors, and talking to people about the importance of judicial races or in how you can build political power by voting in every election.  Instead, the resources went into distributing the crap above and &quot;instructing&quot; people inside the voting booth on how to cast a write-in vote for Tonya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turnout in that district was under 20%.  That number could have been boosted if workers were knocking on doors, calling their neighbors, and talking to people about the importance of judicial races or in how you can build political power by voting in every election.  Instead, the resources went into distributing the crap above and &#8220;instructing&#8221; people inside the voting booth on how to cast a write-in vote for Tonya.</p>
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		<title>By: Howdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No argument from me, Insider - I agree.  Still, there are no provisions in the county by-laws to remove committee people against their will.

Ironically, though, having a &quot;contested&quot; city council race in the general election may have done more for Panella and the other statewide judicial candidates than if Ms. Tonya simply supported Lavelle.  In the eyes of many voters, there was no reason to come to the polls. One can assume that Payne&#039;s voters were overwhelmingly Democratic, so if they bothered to vote in the other races, the Democratic nominees benefited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No argument from me, Insider &#8211; I agree.  Still, there are no provisions in the county by-laws to remove committee people against their will.</p>
<p>Ironically, though, having a &#8220;contested&#8221; city council race in the general election may have done more for Panella and the other statewide judicial candidates than if Ms. Tonya simply supported Lavelle.  In the eyes of many voters, there was no reason to come to the polls. One can assume that Payne&#8217;s voters were overwhelmingly Democratic, so if they bothered to vote in the other races, the Democratic nominees benefited.</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy.. the disciplinary provisions voted down were for committee members opposing the so-called endorsed candidates in a primary, not for those opposing Democratic nominees actually elected by a Democratic electorate, right?

I actually don&#039;t believe that any disciplinary measures should be in place, but I do think that the double-standard needs to end.  Committee members are only expected to support certain endorsed candidates and certain nominated Democrats.

What is the point of the county democratic committee even existing at all if there&#039;s no expectation of nominated Democrats receiving their support?

It&#039;s time to scrap the antiquated endorsement process altogether and go to having open primaries.  Have the Democratic committee focus on actually organizing in their neighborhoods so that we can turn out more than the obscenely low number of voters that we are getting now.

If the chair of the Democratic city committee was focusing on turning out Democrats, rather than waging a write-in campaign, then maybe we would not be looking at swearing in Joan Orie Melvin, Judy Olson, Sallie Mundy, Paula Ott, Patricia McCullough, and Kevin Brobson to our state courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy.. the disciplinary provisions voted down were for committee members opposing the so-called endorsed candidates in a primary, not for those opposing Democratic nominees actually elected by a Democratic electorate, right?</p>
<p>I actually don&#8217;t believe that any disciplinary measures should be in place, but I do think that the double-standard needs to end.  Committee members are only expected to support certain endorsed candidates and certain nominated Democrats.</p>
<p>What is the point of the county democratic committee even existing at all if there&#8217;s no expectation of nominated Democrats receiving their support?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to scrap the antiquated endorsement process altogether and go to having open primaries.  Have the Democratic committee focus on actually organizing in their neighborhoods so that we can turn out more than the obscenely low number of voters that we are getting now.</p>
<p>If the chair of the Democratic city committee was focusing on turning out Democrats, rather than waging a write-in campaign, then maybe we would not be looking at swearing in Joan Orie Melvin, Judy Olson, Sallie Mundy, Paula Ott, Patricia McCullough, and Kevin Brobson to our state courts.</p>
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		<title>By: Howdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you remember how the disciplinary provisions in the County by-laws were voted down last year?  Voting nay were quite a few &quot;progressives&quot;, if I recall.
How soon we forget...

The State Comm by-laws are a different story, but one would still have to prove that Ms. Tonya herself was behind the flyers and emails, not just some misguided supporters acting on their own.  
The facebook page seems a little more problematic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you remember how the disciplinary provisions in the County by-laws were voted down last year?  Voting nay were quite a few &#8220;progressives&#8221;, if I recall.<br />
How soon we forget&#8230;</p>
<p>The State Comm by-laws are a different story, but one would still have to prove that Ms. Tonya herself was behind the flyers and emails, not just some misguided supporters acting on their own.<br />
The facebook page seems a little more problematic.</p>
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		<title>By: Shenanigans in District 6 - Early Returns - post-gazette.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shenanigans in District 6 - Early Returns - post-gazette.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] city politics junkies -- lots of stuff here at Progess Pittsburgh detailing the various (dirty?) ways councilwoman Tonya Payne has gone after her successor Daniel [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] city politics junkies &#8212; lots of stuff here at Progess Pittsburgh detailing the various (dirty?) ways councilwoman Tonya Payne has gone after her successor Daniel [...]</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burn knew about this before the election and did nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burn knew about this before the election and did nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bram R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bram R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we know that Burn is giving Payne a pass yet?  It sounds like he made some comments to the effect that he is considering it, but then again Potter indicates he meant those in jest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we know that Burn is giving Payne a pass yet?  It sounds like he made some comments to the effect that he is considering it, but then again Potter indicates he meant those in jest.</p>
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